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Postby Bob Spree » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:01 am

Hi all

I am preparing a PSProducer Quiz show that contains some 75 images.
The audience will be required to identify where the images were taken.

What I want to do for the first part of the show is to have each slide numbered in sequence so that it shows as - Slide No. 1 : Slide No. 2 ; Slide No. 3 etc.

Then on the answer section of the show I want to have (for example) Slide No. 1 = London ; Slide No.2 = York ; Slide No.3 = Birmingham and so on.

I realise I may have set myself quite a task so can anybody advise on the most efficient way of producing this result.

Thanks all

Bob Spree
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Postby gpsmikey » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:26 am

If you want to put the slide number or something like that on the
slide, select the slide, select "captions" -- in the lower right corner
of the area for entering text, selecting fonts etc, there is a "Macro"
button. click that and look at the "Predefined Macros" from the
pulldown list - one of the options is "slide number". See if that
is what you want.

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Postby gpsmikey » Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:15 am

OK, a bit of a follow-up here that may be a better description of what
you want to do using the macro's. Go to the menu on the top and
select Show -> Show Options -- select "captions" - on the captions
dialog, enter the caption you want ("Slide # " or whatever) and then
use the macro button to select the slide number macro ( \p). Place
the text where you want it to be on all slides. Now, each slide in
the show will have that label with the appropriate number filled in.

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Postby Bob Spree » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:08 am

Mikey Sir

You are an officer and a gentleman.
That is exactly the solution I was looking for.
An additional advantage is that I can move the slides around and they automatically renumber. Brilliant !!

However! if you can tell me how to have this apply from Slide Number 2 forwards so that I can have the first slide as a Title page then I will owe you TWO beers.

Thanks again

Bob Spree :D

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Postby gpsmikey » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:44 am

Hmmm - I may have to settle for 1 beer :D

One choice is to apply the macro to each slide where ever
you want it (that way only the ones you want to show the
number will). That is still a bit more work, but it will still
handle the renumber if moved routine.

hmmmmmmm -- scratch, scratch, fiddle, fiddle ...
Hah -- 2 beers if you please !! After applying the "show macro"
so it is visible on all slides, then open slide 1 (or whichever ones
you want) and click on the captions. You will see the show caption
you specified listed in the captions list for that slide -- UN CHECK
the check box for that caption and voila - that caption is not
displayed for that slide :D :D

Also notice (for others too) there are a bunch of other cool macros
listed that allow you to display things like EXIF info, picture name etc.
Handy if you are presenting a client with a slideshow for them to select
pictures from (and it sort of puts a "watermark" on them too :D )

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Postby Bob Spree » Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:50 pm

Hi Mikey

Back to 1 beer I'm sorry to say. :(

Yes, doing what you say does remove the caption from the Title slide but the next slide shows Slide No.2 and I want it to show Slide 1.

It's back to scratching I'm afraid.

Thanks for your help. I've learnt a lot today about macros. I had not even noticed they were there and what they did.

Bob Spree

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Postby gpsmikey » Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:44 pm

Well, that wasn't what you asked for -- you said you want it to show
the number from slide number 2 onwards :D

As for getting it to indicate that slide #2 is slide #1, I don't have
a simple answer for that. Maybe someone in advertising could help -
they are forever presenting misleading information ? :D

It would be handy if you could define a macro like
Slide # (\p -1) or some such, but I doubt there is any provision
for something like that (and yes, I tried that -- I get a display
of "Slide # (2-1)", Slide # (3-1) etc). Looks like there is no
provision for their macros to evaluate anything (and no way
I know of to define a new macro). As they say "up zee crick, sans paddle" :D

(and I just looked in the psh source (it is just a text file). Didn't see
any obvious way around it. Sometimes you have an option of starting
with "Base 0" or "Base 1" where the first one is 0 or 1 like for arrays
etc. No such luck :cry: )

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Postby Bob Spree » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:53 pm

Hi Mikey

OK! Back to TWO beers for trying. (Our village pub in Central England is open seven days per week - just let me know when you want to collect) :D :D :D

Seriously though, thank you for your considerable efforts and research. It is great to know that there are such experts as yourself willing to help us bumblers.
You've been great - Thanks.

Bob Spree

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Postby briancbb » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:33 am

Bob

I think I can come to Mikey's aid here and earn him the two beers.

As he has said and you have done you can get a show with numbered slides. What you are now needing is slides before this that are not numbered, an INTRO. There is the key word, 'Intro'. It is possible to add two shows together by adding an 'Intro'. That intrusive 'Photodex' logo is an Intro.

I have never tried this, and unfortunately don't have the time right now. As you are adding two .psh files together I don't think it will change the macro, but then I'm just guessing. For that matter I've never used macro. Perhaps Mikey can help us both out on this one and earn his beer.

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Postby nannybear » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:12 am

I am going to have to check out that macro stuff.!! Thanks for pointing that out Mikey, it could come in real handy. Cheers and a beer to you!! Jan
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Postby gpsmikey » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:22 am

Brian -- that sounds like a good approach (the trick is convincing
Producer that the first slide in your viewing is NOT slide #1 and
the trick with two shows may do it - I love devious minds :D )

Jan -- glad to see you back !! There is a number of cool things
in the macros (they are somewhat limited but I could see the
filename macro for example on a slideshow you put together
quickly for a client to allow them to pick the pictures they want
by name easily (and it sort of watermarks them for you))

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Postby briancbb » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:12 pm

Bob

In case you can't find where to put 'Intro' files so they show up in the 'Intro' box under the 'Shows' tab, you put them here.

Program Files>Photodex>Proshow Producer>English.

This folder seems to contain a lot of other files, but this is where you will find 'Intro', 'NoIntro', etc. Using this to put a .psh file of your 'Intro' slides will not interfere with the macros for the slide numbering. :D Tick the 'Include Intro' box and select your file, and Bob's your uncle :lol:

Brian

PS Don't call this file intro.psh or you will overwrite the file already there

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Postby Bob Spree » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:31 am

Hi Mikey /Brian

It looks as though you have one beer each.

This is where we stand at the moment.
The Intro show idea did not work but Brians other idea set me thinking.
I opened a new project with 2 shows.
The first show was an opening slide of curtains (Mark Rideout) followed by a slide with the introductory caption.
The second show was the Numbered slides.
Then when the show is compiled, the two combine to give one show.
The transition from Show 1 to Show 2 is not seamless, with a very short black screen between the two - but hey!
By doing it this way the "Question " slides show the correct numbering from No.1
I have tried to post the show on Photodex, (I am a newbie at that so I dont know how to show the link. If you look at My Collection under "bobspree" you should be able to see the result.
I have not tried to make this little demo show fancy and I have only included some 5 slides or so. The idea is to show the overall effect of these tips.

Once again thanks to Mikey and Brian - where us bumblers would be without experts like you two I do not know.
(Probably still using OHPs.)
Thanks again
Bob Spree

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Postby Bob Spree » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:37 am

Hi

Ref my earlier post - you need to click on "Play All" to see the full show.
If you click on the thumbnail it only seems to play the first part of the show.

Bob Spree

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Postby lostdutchman » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:01 am

Bob Spree wrote:I have tried to post the show on Photodex, (I am a newbie at that so I dont know how to show the link. If you look at My Collection under "bobspree" you should be able to see the result.
I have not tried to make this little demo show fancy and I have only included some 5 slides or so. The idea is to show the overall effect of these tips.

Bob Spree


Bob, Looks like you are on the right track. "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer."

Here is the link to your show. After you post it to PhotoDex and you arrive at the show site, highllight the address in your browser's address bar. Then you can simply past that address into your ProShow Enthusiast post.

http://www.photodex.com/sharing/viewsho ... 1161&alb=0

Ken

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