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Re: Proshow Media music blocked on you tube

Postby debngar » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:53 am

Purchase and use of royalty free musc should disclose in the TOU whether or not they can put obnoxious ads on your video as result of your purchase and use. If I paid for the license and that was not disclosed, I wouldn't buy the kind that did that to my videos if I knew I had a choice. UGH!
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Re: Proshow Media music blocked on you tube

Postby weldr » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:28 am

Here's Rumblefish FAQ http://rumblefish.com/id/youtube-content-id.php . Clears things up or makes it more confusing? Don
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Re: Proshow Media music blocked on you tube

Postby BarbaraC » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:40 pm

This Rumblefish company is interesting, though I'm not sure in a good way. I dug around, but for the life of me, I couldn't find anywhere that stated prices charged the artists. It always bothers me when a company hides its prices.

The system Youtube uses is always making mistakes, and I wouldn't doubt they've even flagged videos created by people who composed their own music. I'm waiting for the day they do it to me since I'm sure it's not a matter of if but of when.

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Re: Proshow Media music blocked on you tube

Postby Rosemary » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:12 pm

What was interesting to me that the music I used which is stated on the CD as "original music by Wind Weaver and is copyright 2009 Wind Weaver Productions. She is registered with SOCAN

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Re: Proshow Media music blocked on you tube

Postby debngar » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:57 pm

Rosemary wrote:What was interesting to me that the music I used which is stated on the CD as "original music by Wind Weaver and is copyright 2009 Wind Weaver Productions. She is registered with SOCAN

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If this is the same artist's music that is listed on CD Baby site for sale, Rumblefish apparently is associated with CD Baby and collects royalties for the artists for them by way of YouTube's Content ID system.

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/windweaver

So it seems, even if the artist tells you they will allow use, you still could be tagged for the content by a company or publisher that represents them somewhere down the line and be forced to put an ad on the video and potentially one that you do not approve of either. UGH. :shock:

http://www.rumblefish.com/blog/2012/01/ ... -of-songs/

The only alternative is to post the videos on your own website using royalty free music as before if you don't want to be forced into letting them put ads on your videos. Since YT hosts the video site for free for users there isn't anything you can probably do about it other than not use them.

While I understand the alleged purpose for the ad revenue to pay the artist, this is not something that in the TOU when the user purchases the license for the royalty free music. Isn't that why they call it, "royalty free"? In all the TOU I've read for the music I've used, I don't think there was ever one mention of this situation, that the user would have to allow ads to help pay further royalties to the artist. This was why royalty free music costs more than the regular music in the first place!!! :shock: So, not only do we pay more for the music which isn't the kind of music we necessarily would have married to a slide show in the first place but the user has to put up with ugly ads too? Sheesh. There is something terribly wrong with that.

If the artist's music is not royalty free stuff, but they allow use in a slide show if the user agrees to allowing ads, then fine. But don't put ads on my videos that use royalty free music where my life-time license did not say I had to allow that. :evil:

It does make sense to me though that the music represented by Rumblefish, purchased by a user on the Friendly Music site is only $1.99 and the artist's ad royalties make up for the non-Royalty Free price paid for the use of the music. But either way, the user is not allowed to use THAT music for commercial puposes, to make money. I'm pretty sure that's because they want the ad revenue instead.
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Re: Proshow Media music blocked on you tube

Postby Rosemary » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:38 pm

Well sleuthed, Debbi. I clicked on your link http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/windweaver
and I get directed to the CD that I purchased from Terry Mack, (Windweaver). I have no doubt that she is who she said she is. Good thing that I do not do slide shows commercially as I would get into all sorts of trouble! I posted the show on YouTube so as Terry could hear her music as a background to a slide show. Ah well - lesson learned and I shall stick with the Photodex website.

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Re: Proshow Media music blocked on you tube

Postby debngar » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:52 pm

Rosemary wrote:Well sleuthed, Debbi. I clicked on your link http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/windweaver
and I get directed to the CD that I purchased from Terry Mack, (Windweaver). I have no doubt that she is who she said she is. Good thing that I do not do slide shows commercially as I would get into all sorts of trouble! I posted the show on YouTube so as Terry could hear her music as a background to a slide show. Ah well - lesson learned and I shall stick with the Photodex website.

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I have no doubt she is who she says she is too. It could be she isn't as informed about her own copyrights as she could be for her own sake.

I'm guessing publishers and distributors require a piece of the pie too, not just the artist. Just when it seems the music "use" situation is getting better, (meaning we now have more choices,) it seems to be getting more complicated instead. Sigh. :roll:
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